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Scriptor Master 5,183 posts since
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Apr 28, 2012 8:17 PM

Marc Bergevin -- Next Habs GM?

Here's an article by Jonathan Willis in The Edmonton Journal:

 

marc bergevin chicago blackhawks Is Marc Bergevin Ready To Run An NHL Team?

 

Marc Bergevin’s name has featured prominently of late as a potential candidate for the top job with the Montreal Canadiens.  Who is he, and why do many feel that he’s ready to take the reins of a National Hockey League team?

 

Current Position: Assistant General Manager, Chicago Blackhawks (2011 – Present)

 

Previous Position: Director of Player Personnel, Chicago Blackhawks (2009 – 2011)

 

Other Experience: Bergevin was a third round pick of the Blackhawks back in 1983 and had a long and well-travelled NHL career that saw him play 1271 games between the regular season and the playoffs for nine different NHL clubs.  In that span he’s had a long list of current NHL broadcasters, coaches and executives as teammates or coaches.  For example, as a rookie Bergevin was on the same team as Sharks’ G.M. Doug Wilson, Ducks’ G.M. Bob Murray and Director of Player Personnel Rick Paterson, Kings’ coach Darryl Sutter, Grand Rapids’ coach Curt Fraser, former ‘Hawks coach Denis Savard, broadcasters Ed Olczyk, Steve Ludzik and Darren Pang and the whole group was coached by long-time ‘Hawks executive Bob Pulford.

Bergevin retired in the summer of 2004, and joined the Blackhawks’ professional scouting staff in 2005-06.  By his third season with the team, he’d been elevated to Director of Professional Scouting; in his fourth he served as an assistant coach on Joel Quenneville’s staff.  He then took the role of Director of Player Personnel and was promoted to Assistant General Manager once Kevin Cheveldayoff left to run the Winnipeg Jets.

 

What has this candidate done that makes him warrant consideration?  In his capacity as Director of Player Personnel, Bergevin was responsible for monitoring the development of the Blackhawks’ prospects, as well as overseeing both the professional and amateur scouting groups.  It’s quite early to judge the majority of his work, but one item worth mentioning is the 2011 selection of overage forward Andrew Shaw out of the OHL – Shaw has already played 35 NHL games, scoring 11 times, and will be considered a successful pick even if he never laces up skates again.  He’s dialed in to the NHL game – a quick Google archives search over the last five years shows him in a plethora of rinks, both AHL and NHL, as he scouted for the Blackhawks, and there are going to be very few NHL’ers he hasn’t watched in person the last few seasons.  He had a reputation as a prankster going back to his playing days and general manager Stan Bowman describes him asvery well-connected, he’s a people person, he’s got excellent relationships with agents and other people in hockey and his network is vast because of his playing days; he played for a number of teams, so he’s got a lot of background on coaches and players.”

 

What are this candidate’s negatives?  Two items in particular stand out to me.  The first is experience: Bergevin has only been an assistant general manager for a single year and only been in a top executive role for three.  He certainly has a ton of knowledge from his playing days, but that’s not a lot of time upstairs.  The second is some concern about his ability to manage the salary cap; it was less than one year ago that Bowman said that Bergevinis honest in admitting that he doesn’t have a complete grasp of numbers and the salary cap, but he doesn’t say, “Oh, I can’t do that.” He takes it as a challenge to learn it.”  The attitude is certainly commendable, but at best that’s a backhanded recommendation for a general manager.  In the same vein, the travel schedule of Bergevin’s junior team meant that hisformal education ended at grade 11;” while education isn’t the deciding factor in what makes a good G.M. many other candidates come from law or business backgrounds and it’s fair to suggest that this will be considered.

 

Anything else worth noting?  The Montreal-born Bergevin is fluently bilingual, which naturally is one of the reasons that his name has come up as a potential G.M. for the Habs.  Bergevin never won the Stanley Cup as a player but did win a gold medal at the World Championships in 1994 and won two Calder Cups in the AHL.  He did get a Cup ring for his role in the ‘Hawks victory in 2010.

 

My personal take: I wouldn’t feel comfortable hiring Bergevin for the top job at this point in time.  He’s still relatively new to the number two role in an NHL organization, and the fact is that the salary cap and the CBA are things a general manager should understand intimately first-hand.  Stan Bowman’s comments suggest that Bergevin is still picking that stuff up.

I'll take Willis' own take with a grain of salt. His major hangup with Bergevin is the lack of intimate knowledge concerning the current CBA and the lack of experience in front office role (only 1 year as Assistant GM)...
Bergevin retired in the summer of 2004, and joined the Blackhawks’ professional scouting staff in 2005-06.  By his third season with the team, he’d been elevated to Director of Professional Scouting; in his fourth he served as an assistant coach on Joel Quenneville’s staff.  He then took the role of Director of Player Personnel and was promoted to Assistant General Manager once Kevin Cheveldayoff left to run the Winnipeg Jets.

 

His quick rise within the Hawks' management ranks underlines three things: He is competent, adapts quickly to a new role and has strong interpersonal skills (See communication skills)! Those close to him are amazed by the contacts he has made over the years. On talk radio today, a colleague of his stated that every rink he visits, AHL, Junior or NHL, he knows everyone and they're all glad to see him when he arrives. He knows, off the top of his head, more players in the NHL and aspiring to be in the NHL than anyone else in the league. At the drop of a dime, he can give you all their personal stats and give you an assessment of what type of player they are.

 

Beyond these skills which are, IMO, essential to a GM -- who must be able to evaluate talent (both within his ranks and around the different leagues), find dancing partners in order to make a trade when necessary and have the respect of both those around him and throughout the league -- Bergevin should master the ramifications of the CBA. However, it was almost a year ago that he admitted he wasn't in control of the numbers pertaining to the CBA and made it a challenge to learn it. Today, who's to say he isn't much closer to having learnt it? For him to roll off stats by rote, his memory must be quite developed. besides, there's a new CBA around the corner and EVERYONE will have to get up to date.

 

Moreover, Montreal is assembling a whole new management team and who's to say someone can't come on board to advise Bergevin as a number cruncher? I'd rather have someone who can assess talent correctly, know who is dead weight and have other GMs answer the phone when he calls. Knowing the players might prevent trades like the Gomez trade, for example...

 

Bergevin played in the NHL and knows what it takes to play at that level.

 

Lastly, I'm certain Bergevin won't take the job (if it is offered to him) in a market like Montreal unless he feels he is ready for it and the management organigram allows him the tools necessary to do the best job he can...

 

He's young and may bring a dynamic removed from older philosophies that no longer match the new NHL...

 

I'm more and more interested by this guy. You?

CaptainObvious Master 10,314 posts since
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1. Apr 28, 2012 8:25 PM in response to: Scriptor
Re: Marc Bergevin -- Next Habs GM?

I'll be honest when I say I truely don't know a ton about Bergevin, but what I do know is I trust Savard to bring in who he feels is best, so if it turns out to be Bergevin so be it.

 

 

I could see a type of management "team", anyways. I doubt whoever is brought in will have complete say in everything, Molson himself said he wants a new guy who is a better communicater, both with the media and internally.

 

So if Bergevin gets the nod, and is surrounded by solid hockey minds (liek Savard, or Bowman I have heard as well, maybe Brisebois or Roy?), I'm all for it.

 

 

 

I wish I knew more about him, though. Thanks for the article, Scriptor, it sheds some light on stuff a bit better for me.

Noquinn Master 3,550 posts since
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2. Apr 29, 2012 8:43 AM in response to: Scriptor
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He is my personal favorite candidate. I love what I read/hear about this guy, he represents a refreshing new change to me. If his only question marks are lack of experience at the management level and his understanding of the cap then I'm fine with that. He has been around hockey at all levels his whole life seems like a shooting star in the Blachhawks organization and as far as the cap goes I'll buy him a calculator.

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4. Apr 29, 2012 9:12 AM in response to: Scriptor
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Or we could use the Islander model and hire Budaj!

kayuk Master 3,430 posts since
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6. Apr 29, 2012 9:22 AM in response to: Scriptor
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As long as the new GM is proactive, always trying to improve the team.

kayuk Master 3,430 posts since
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8. Apr 29, 2012 9:26 AM in response to: Scriptor
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Scriptor wrote:

 

As far as trades and signings go, we all know he'll only be Kayuk's puppet in the end anyhow. What does he really need to know when he is told what to do? As for the lack of experience and the Cap -- as I mentioned before -- Montreal can assemble a management team that will take care of that. Experience, however, Bergevin has in many ways because of the hockey functions he has held. It's not like promoting Molson's PR pawn (as with Houle) for those who are worried. His vast knowledge of the players and the game itself are definate assets. His enthusiasm is another. His contacts and likeability around the different leagues are key...

hey hey hey! careful! if i had my way, the Habs would be a dynasty! going for 6 cups in 6 years!

Lillypad_33 Master 6,144 posts since
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10. Apr 29, 2012 9:41 AM in response to: Scriptor
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Bergevin makes no sense to me personally.

He's been an assistant GM for one year?  How is that experience?

 

I don't know.  Might as well hire Patrick Roy if that's the case?

habaholic2 Master 5,082 posts since
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12. Apr 30, 2012 11:48 AM in response to: Scriptor
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Bergevin is my favorite pick right now.  Seeing how Mr Money Player Agent and Mr Nill are out of the running.  I just think if we don't hire someone with tons of NHL GM experience that he is my fav of the bunch out there.  I like his experience in all levels of management, and I like the many positive things said about his character by the Hawks orgainization.  The fact that the new GM came in and promoted him, instead of bringing in someone new/old friend, tells me that he is seen as very valuable by that organization.

 

Sounds like a solid candidate to me.  Remember none of these guys we hear in  the media have any NHL GM experience

effiecan Master 10,577 posts since
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13. Apr 30, 2012 11:58 AM in response to: habaholic2
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Dale Tallon is bilingual. I would take him.

 

Risebrough has a ton of experience but that Gilmour trade he made back in the early 90's taints him.

CaptainObvious Master 10,314 posts since
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14. Apr 30, 2012 4:24 PM in response to: effiecan
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I just read on cjad (don't know if it's credible or not) that they think the GM job is down to two guys: Bergevin and McGuire.

 

 

From what they know (which oucld be nothing- lol) Bergevin and McGuire are two of very few who have ben granted 2nd interviws. It said in article that rumor has it Bobby Orr wasa character reference for McGuire?

 

Wow, imagine throwing that reference into an interview. lol

 

 

But if true, what do you think, Habs fans? Bergevin or McGuire?

 

I hate to say it (I think his on air personality is ridiculous) but I might lean towards McGuire.........if only because I don't know too much about Bergevin, but from what I do know about McGuire he seems like the kind of guy who would might aggressively want to improve the team.

Maybe he takes a few swings and misses, but he seems like the kind of guy that will be swinging for the fences.

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